Topic: 501st (Read 857 times)

Admrial_Zero · « **on:** June 09, 2007, 05:38 pm »

could a special Imp unit be created for the 501st? Like make it twice or even three times the number of Storm troopers, with a slight tweak on healt or damage...something to make them Vaders fist

Iron-Guardsman 2413 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2007, 11:25 pm »

I think with the number of Empire heroes and possible Empire heroes you are more likely to get somewhere asking for it as a Republic special unit.

Iron

Mr. Recluse, the Beta Tester(Greiv55) · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2007, 12:11 am »

Quote from: Iron-Guardsman 2413 on June 10, 2007, 11:25 pm

I think with the number of Empire heroes and possible Empire heroes you are more likely to get somewhere asking for it as a Republic special unit.

Iron

the 501st should be just a minor hero(named Vader's Fist during the Galactic Civil War)

say about 6 squads of soldiers in the unit with there own Warship(Venator-class Star Destroyer(when deploying on land 3 gunships deploy the unit)

Iron-Guardsman 2413 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2007, 08:53 am »

A Venator? If you say so. I would have thought they would have been the first in line for an Imperator Class Star Destroyer. Or did you mean in the Republic?

Iron

Mr. Recluse, the Beta Tester(Greiv55) · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2007, 03:03 pm »

i mean if they are for both eras

Imperator II-class Star Destroyer during the rebellion era; 3 Lambda-class shuttles put them on the ground during the Galactic Civil War

Venator-class Star Destroyer for the Rise of the Empire era; 3 LAAT/i Gunships put them on the ground during the clone wars

Filo · « **Reply #5 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:37 am »

Quote from: Greiv55 on June 11, 2007, 03:03 pm

i mean if they are for both eras

Imperator II-class Star Destroyer during the rebellion era; 3 Lambda-class shuttles put them on the ground during the Galactic Civil War

Venator-class Star Destroyer for the Rise of the Empire era; 3 LAAT/i Gunships put them on the ground during the clone wars

Sounds good, but you make it seem like the LAAT series gunships weren't used by the Empire... Just thought it was a little weird.

Ah... I'm probably just over-reacting. *laughs*

Sergeant Lyeman · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2007, 05:40 am »

On land, their special ability could be a grenade barrage.

Filo · « **Reply #7 on:** June 14, 2007, 07:04 am »

Quote from: Sergeant Lyeman on June 13, 2007, 05:40 am

On land, their special ability could be a grenade barrage.

Hehehehe

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #8 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:01 pm »

That or temporary invulrenability or structure capturing

Mr. Recluse, the Beta Tester(Greiv55) · « **Reply #9 on:** June 15, 2007, 01:09 am »

Quote from: Admrial_Zero on June 14, 2007, 11:01 pm

That or temporary invulrenability or structure capturing

OR even better........... ability to "Hijack" Light to heavy vehicles(can't capture hero vehicles)
and "Strafing Run"-Calls in a group of 2 Arc-170s(or Eta-2 Actis and Arc-170, V-wing and Eta-2 Actis, V-wing and Arc-170, 2 V-wings, or 2 Eta-2 Actis) to deliver a ton of laser fire on the area of choice

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2007, 05:42 pm »

also is it possible to make one of the groups of ST plex units

rzac · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2007, 03:45 am »

how bout hijack and grenade barrage strafing run might cause some lag to many ships why don't they just bombard the place with venator fire

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #12 on:** June 18, 2007, 10:15 pm »

As a space tac abaility? well that dosen't seem like a very cannon way to do it. If anything it would Be a 501st ISD 1/2 or Venator, with maby a better power to weapons abaility, and a wider array of fighters onboard in addition to the TIE's.

Lan Kakashi ^_- · « **Reply #13 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:54 pm »

I heard about the 501st, they were Vader personal faveret and were the first to be under his comand to the Empire elite group, so yes 501st would be nice, i was hoping that when in space 501 would have ARC 170 fighter and in the ground the would be in the Turbo tank. Something like that. They should look more like clone trooper than storm, and they should be in light blue since the are marine.

<------Like this color on R2D2

Also the turbo tank should spawn more 501st troops like the AT-AT, oh jeez why dont we just create a planet that can buy all the 501st stuff.

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:52 pm »

Well technically the 501st goes from the Clone Wars toThe New Republic as far as i know.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/501st

So ARC-170's in space for the Clone Wars and Rise of the Empire era is ok but not once you hit the Galatic Civil War

Lan Kakashi ^_- · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:18 pm »

I know but I want to keep it original, And beside the ARC look cool

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2007, 12:05 am »

Yes the ARC look cool im just trying to say that once the Empire was full founded it changed everything to set itself apart from the Old Republic, New ships new trooper armor and new fighters

Mr. Recluse, the Beta Tester(Greiv55) · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2007, 02:49 am »

Quote from: Admrial_Zero on June 20, 2007, 03:52 pm

Well technically the 501st goes from the Clone Wars toThe New Republic as far as i know.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/501st

So ARC-170's in space for the Clone Wars and Rise of the Empire era is ok but not once you hit the Galatic Civil War

accually they worked for the REpublic in the Clone Wars the Empire in the Galactic Civil War and still loyal to the imperials until their latest appearance in 150 ABY

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2007, 04:55 pm »

right although during their continued loyalty Aliens were alowd to serve in the 501st

NM2 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 24, 2007, 01:56 am »

I agree with everything so far. We should include them in both eras. But the strafing run ability wouldn't be good unless you can only use once per map. I mean, destroy EVERYTHING in an area?? THINK OF THE POSSIBILITIES!! It sounds awesome, but it's kinda cheap in a way...
Aw well, love the transition ideas. They should pilot ARC-170's though. Like 3 groups of enhanced ARC-170's accompanied by a Venator and in the Galactic Civil War, 3 groups of TIE Avengers accompanied by a Victory Cruiser or some other cruiser\destroyer because in BF2, you pilot fighters/ bombers, not big ships.

Q · « **Reply #20 on:** June 24, 2007, 02:03 am »

yes but the fighter come out of big ship ie imperial rather than victory

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #21 on:** June 24, 2007, 04:17 am »

The 501st isn't that much more advanced they are just really good at their job

NM2 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 24, 2007, 03:26 pm »

Yea, you could use and ISD, but I thought it was too big at the moment, but if they're gonna be a hero unit, I'd agree on using an ISD instead. You could also have 1 group of ARC's, then 1 of Torents and 1 of V-wings or Eta's, and when the Empire comes 1 TIE fighter/bomber/interceptor instead of just 3 fighter groups.

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #23 on:** June 24, 2007, 06:22 pm »

whoa there skippy. Eta's? no no no. that was just a mistake in battlefront 2 . sides the only thing advanced you need on the 501st capital ship is some heavier armoring and perhaps a secondary sheild gennerator

NM2 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:00 am »

Well, yea that would work too. But I just liked the idea of having them in fighters like in BF2 and be accompanied by the ship they launched from. I see my nickname is skippy now too. Lol.

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:24 am »

Yes it is. But Eta's just won't do by all rights ARC-170 is the recon scout. built with a hyperdrive and enhances sensor package in the nose

Filo · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:45 am »

Quote from: Admrial_Zero on June 24, 2007, 06:22 pm

whoa there skippy. Eta's? no no no. that was just a mistake in battlefront 2 . sides the only thing advanced you need on the 501st capital ship is some heavier armoring and perhaps a secondary sheild gennerator

Dude, Eta's weren't a mistake in BF2, they might have made a mistake by making them exact copies of Anakin's Yellow one, but they're not a mistake... For example, a Venator- Class Star Destroy carried 192 Eta-2's at one time, and during the clone wars you were lucky if there was one jedi for every 4/5 Venators..., so... it's obvious that they were flown by clones too. I mean what is one jedi gonna do with almost 200 fighters that only he is allowed to fly? Also in the book, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith Incredible Cross sections , it mentions that the Eta's were favorites of Jedi Fighter Aces, not that they were use exclusively by the jedi, but that they were a popular choice by jedi pilots.

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2007, 03:41 pm »

alright point. but Eta's wern,t ment for scouting they are for point defence work, keeping the fleet safe from fast movers. They reqired a hyperspace ring just to jump, sheilds couldn't have been that strong either

NM2 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:01 pm »

I do see your point in not using Eta's, I think that if the 501st can be used in space they should just have 3 squads of enhanced ARC-170's and a Venator accompanying them. Idk, I don't know a lot about them, but that's what I'd do.

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:08 pm »

right sounds like were getting close, mabye give them a pair of ACclamator Mk I's to accompany them

NM2 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:11 pm »

Yea that'd be cool. Be like they have a whole fleet accompanying them

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:13 pm »

Like a massive 501st fleet.that would all be one hero. cost like 15 or 16 k but one huge hero fleet

but that fleet can't have aneone placed into it

Lan Kakashi ^_- · « **Reply #32 on:** June 25, 2007, 09:06 pm »

First from ground unit to space unit, now to a fleet, i wonder what will come next. I just want the 501st to be clone in ground and ARC in space, simple and clear.

Lan Kakashi ^_- · « **Reply #33 on:** June 25, 2007, 09:13 pm »

And by the way During the Galactic Civil War, ARC-170s could be found in both Imperial and Rebel fleets, where they were considered elite craft. I got that from wik

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #34 on:** June 25, 2007, 09:35 pm »

yeah the fleet is a bit large of an idea i'll admit. But The 501st Leigon of Clone troopers and later Stormtroopers wern't all pilots and grunts. They were the clones you called when the S#it hit the fan big time. So it make sence that they have to be more versitile than just Fighters in space and troops on the ground.

NM2 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:31 pm »

Idk about a whole HUGE fleet, but I like the idea of the Venators/ARC-170's and the ISD/2 Amaculators/TIE fighters in space, and just stormtroopers and clones on land. A huge fleet seems like a little too much for just one hero. If it was that big, I think it would need to be equaled out for the enemy.

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #36 on:** June 26, 2007, 03:17 am »

right that is more like a fan created game entirely

Lan Kakashi ^_- · « **Reply #37 on:** July 01, 2007, 07:28 pm »

I would go with turbo tank on ground and Venater spawn ARC in space, huge fleet is way over our head.

Admrial_Zero · « **Reply #38 on:** July 01, 2007, 07:35 pm »

obviously.

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