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BF3 Discussion Topic
« on: October 25, 2011, 08:40 pm »

BF3 is out. What do you think of it?
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 10:29 pm »

Meh.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 10:31 pm »



http://www.rockstargames.com/

What do you guys think? Personally, I can't wait!

I can't imagine anything worse... GTA has always bored me very quickly...

Besides, not really comparable to BF3 or MW3... MW3 is set to be crap in comparison to BF3, but then I found all the CoDs to be complete trash anyway.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 01:29 am »

Agree on both of DVW's points, BF3 will blow CoD3 out of the water and into orbit.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 02:14 am »

Agree on both of DVW's points, BF3 will blow CoD3 out of the water and into orbit.

CoD3 will probably still sell just as well (or better) for two reasons:

1. It's for more casual gamers - it's just an arcade, game, basically.
2. All the hype surrounding the brand.

BF3 is always going to be a better made, better looking and better functioning game than whatever CoD do with MW3, simply because CoD don't try to make their games compete on a serious scale - they just pack a bit of improvement onto the same engine into each new game and release it with a new campaign and boom, the brand sells.

It is designed as a cash cow; if CoD spent the same time and intricate development that went into Frostbite 2 and Battlefield 3 on each release, they wouldn't be able to perpetuate their brand and the hype, because it'd take much longer to develop each game and they wouldn't be able to sell as many new editions and expansions as they do currently, because they would actually produce a decent end-product in one package.

BF3, on the other hand, is the first major Battlefield release since Battlefield 2/2142 - for the PC, anyway - and has been pretty much developed to be the best 'modern warfare' (pardon the brand pun; I'm using this as its literal meaning) game that will set the standard for the next generation. If CoD did this, they wouldn't be able to keep selling new editions of their franchise each year.

This is only the gut feeling why I dislike CoD, though; it's not that their games are necessarily bad; I've played them and it's still fun to play, but when I've played CoD I've always been consciously and painfully aware of the quality deficit... There genuinely isn't anything new in the last few CoD:MW titles; they have been the same old arcade-style, small-field shoot-'em-ups as you could have bought 8 years ago, just with even more weapons and better graphics.


So sure, CoD is still a fun game to play, and it may appeal more to the more casual gamer who just plays xbox with his mates occasionally, but whichever way you look at it - or at least whichever way I look at it, as a gamer and a modder (since we of the latter group love to criticise and edit games' worse aspects), BF3 is always going to be a vastly superior game; it's going to be the benchmark for serious online FPS games for the next few years, because it's really the first of its kind on such a scale.

I can't comment on CoD's singleplayer campaign, because Battlefield traditionally didn't feature one, and I suspect the recent Battlefield titles' inclusion of a 'campaign' is an attempt to really close the gap on any attempts at criticism for CoD fanboys. For all I know, the CoD campaigns may still be superior - after all, the more simplistic and unrealistic arcade style in CoD means that it is more intended for single player enjoyment. As far as I'm concerned, however, the important factors in modern games are the scale, quality and realism of the multiplayer; because that is, for most of us, what we buy the games for and where the true potential and full splendour of a game is truly shown, and where Battlefield has, so far at least, dominated, and BF3 promises to give a massive online experience on a truly battlefield (small 'b' for the normal use of the noun) experience, without the gimmicks, gold-plated guns and arcade limitations of CoD.

Having been in the beta, BF3 isn't perfect; don't mistake me for a Battlefield/DICE worshipper; but even the glitchy beta which didn't feature any of the full-sized maps with vehicles was by far the best multiplayer shooter I've yet to play, and goes to show off the range of style that BF3 encompasses: which includes the fast-action close-quarter-battles that people say they prefer CoD for; but with a realistic take on it with the beautiful environmental destruction, suppressive fire, animation physics and even being glared by flashlights and blinded momentarily by laser sights.

So, yeah.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 04:31 am »

I should have listened to treebeard and not been hasty.

Unfortunately your point is vaild, its a sad fact but for whatever reason not as many people appreciate the BF series despite the many superior aspects it has compared to CoD. Admittedly its good for economic competition but it would be nice if people were really looking for more out of their FPS'.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 06:41 am »

CoD3 will probably still sell just as well (or better) for two reasons:

1. It's for more casual gamers - it's just an arcade, game, basically.
2. All the hype surrounding the brand.
Exactly, I have scarcely played CoD MW2 and BF2, and I agree, especially if BF2 singleplayer wasn't so shallow. This is why I will probably get BF3 before MW3 if I can get the hardware to play them.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2011, 11:26 pm »

CoD3 will probably still sell just as well (or better) for two reasons:

1. It's for more casual gamers - it's just an arcade, game, basically.
2. All the hype surrounding the brand.
Exactly, I have scarcely played CoD MW2 and BF2, and I agree, especially if BF2 singleplayer wasn't so shallow. This is why I will probably get BF3 before MW3 if I can get the hardware to play them.

Meh, they've ruined BF3 to try and make it appeal to CoD fanboys and console players. The maps are tiny, crappy and with all the CPs clustered together in the middle, vehicles are useless and scarce, everything just ends up as a deathmatch and squad/team-play is non-existent due to a useless minimap/map, no commo rose commands, no VoIP...

They've even toned down destruction and deformation, key selling points of Frostbite 2.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 12:19 am »

It's kinda like watching a band you like sell out, just remember the good times and hope they will come to their senses at some point.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 02:12 am »

Their forums and feedback system are full of people asking them to fix the whole issue, but they actually made a statement saying 'No-one is interested in having bigger maps and more strategic play-style'.

Why else would we buy a Battlefield title?
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 03:52 am »

I think they've gone off the deep end  :wall i dunno why they thought they needed to emulate CoD, its not like they were losing money when they released BF and BF2.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 06:12 am »

This is basically what it is:

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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 01:07 pm »

true.
also: the maps are basically all alike:

Damavand Peak - Operation Metro
Kharg Island - Operation Firestorm
...the graphics is different, the map is the same

besides that, they try everything to make bf possible on xbox/ps3 (map size, squad system etc.) but simply ignored the pc gamers.

it's a pity, because the game has potential.
waiting for the DLCs.......if they ruin back to karkland I'm seriously pissed off!
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 08:33 pm »

My brother will buy into it totally then, he's a complete CoD fanboy, I play it casually but im not particularly enthralled with it, how far a backwards step from BF2 is this anyway? Should I be prepared to bawl my eyes out at the regression?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 10:36 pm »

My brother will buy into it totally then, he's a complete CoD fanboy, I play it casually but im not particularly enthralled with it, how far a backwards step from BF2 is this anyway? Should I be prepared to bawl my eyes out at the regression?

Yes.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 11:46 pm »

 :'( that money im going to spend on tissues was needed for a new crash/ride cymbal...
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2011, 10:57 am »

you know, the game might get better when COD is released.
sure, the maps are pretty crappy, but worse than that are all the campers/tubers who just sit somewhere, constantly aiming on your spawnpoint or simply just fireing the RPG-Launcher.

maybe when COD is out, they all get back to where they belong - MW3.
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2011, 01:09 pm »

Did you know BF3 installs a spyware at your pc that will spy on your harddrive. Thats why they may have to make a patch in germany that deinstalls that software . I just heared it on the radio so I don't know for sure....  :-X
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Re: Move over BF3 & MW3: Grand Theft Auto 5 is announced!
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2011, 02:09 pm »

requirement to play bf3 is to install EA's new steam-opponent ORIGIN

Origin scans your ProgramData-Folder and parts of your registry and sends it to EA HQ.

after changing the EULA 2 times, at least they are not allowed to sell it.

but it's relly more kind of a hysteria....noone knows what really is sent and used by origin...
but it is against every european law.
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Re: BF3 Discussion Topic
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2011, 01:50 am »

Screw it, I'm renaming the topic :P

I never played BF2 online so I can't compare BF3 with it.

However, I think BF3 is perhaps better for console players than PC player, given the competition.
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