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Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« on: October 15, 2011, 03:55 pm »

Exclusive to the UEaW boards - you won't see these on our Moddb or Twitter - a look at the Alpha build's Galactic Conquest look and feel; including both new higher definition graphics and view for the galaxy itself, but also our new GUI layout.

The user interface has been re-made with the emphasis on three main points:

  • Reducing the GUI and streamlining it to make it smaller, more efficient and less impinging on the galaxy itself
  • Introducing purpose-designed compatibility with our new features
  • Generally looking glassy and sexy

This is so far just our alpha build of the GUI, but it's shaping up nicely - main things to refine are to fill in the remaining buttons (you'll notice some empty placeholders) as well as testing to ensure comfortable function. In any case, these shots should give a taste for what the GC in UEaW V1 will look like, just remember a few things:

  • Tooltips are not finalised - for example, they don't have their upcoming maintenance, transport and crewing statsistics, but also all planet tooltips are to be re-written.
  • Fleet layouts are purely placeholders at this stage - don't expect every planet to be nicely built up and with defenders like this when you play our GCs - you'll be finding yourself initially thinly stretched to defend your borders in reality ;).
  • You'll see that I have some rather nice cash figures in my galactic treasury - mostly that are OVER 9,000! These are, however, because I am me, and actual cash flow will not be so plentiful in reality :P

And so, without further ado, we hope you appreciate our re-design and glassy transparancy ;) (as well as maybe wondering about our submenu function!).

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Hope it meets with our fans' approval!


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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2011, 04:03 pm »

Oh yeah, it certainly meets with mine! :D
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2011, 07:06 pm »

Whoa.   That looks really good : D   


Thanks for the update.
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 09:57 pm »

Shaping up very nicely! Looking incredible!
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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2011, 10:43 pm »

Freaking Awesome!
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2011, 11:55 pm »

If anyone has graphical suggestions about the GUI, do please say so either on here on in a PM; since the GUI is one of the newer parts and is in basic testing now, it can be improved upon.
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 01:22 am »

Might I suggest scroll bars for the excessively large tool tips to try and keep the tool tips from covering half the screen...

Also, as an off-topic question, just how taxing is this mod during GC? I remember my game crashing on mods with ten million planets in their GC's without even trying to load the map...
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2011, 01:44 am »

Oh I love the info box on each unit  :D
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2011, 01:49 am »

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Might I suggest scroll bars for the excessively large tool tip
Not possible. Means...basically scroll bars would be possible, but they wouldn't do anything :P

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Also, as an off-topic question, just how taxing is this mod during GC? I remember my game crashing on mods with ten million planets in their GC's without even trying to load the map...
Depends on how good your system is. We have a maximum of..69 planets? Yeah, something around this. So quite less, compared to other mods with 119 planets. Also, if those 69 are still too many for your system, there are of course other GCs with less planets.
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2011, 02:08 am »

69? Oh, good, means it won't choke on me before it even tries to load... Kinda laggy, but it will load.

It likes to crash when the number goes over 100 I believe. Thanks.



Then how about automatic scrolling for the tooltips? Scrolls up and down slowly?
Or, at the very least, maybe just a little 'more' button and minimize them...
I'm just saying because if you look at those tool tips, they cover a pretty big portion of the screen and tend to be annoying when that happens. I like tool tips in general, until they get in the way...
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2011, 02:13 am »

Might I suggest scroll bars for the excessively large tool tips to try and keep the tool tips from covering half the screen...

The very largest boxes like the ISD there are marked for refinement to bring them down in size; but as Shimrra says it's not possible. Do note on the full resolution image, however, the tooltip box itself is also semi-transparent, so it doesn't totally obstruct your view even when its up  :up.

I can't comment too far yet on the Galactic Conquest performance; we've not run our galactic AI fully yet. The galactic scenarios have, however, been made so that they have a wide variety of planets, but not like other mods where they just throw lots of superfluous planets in resulting in hundreds of worlds and lots of lag. The later the era, the more there tend to be - simply because more were discovered and developed over time - but essentially the planet numbers per se shouldn't incur too great a strain on the system.
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2011, 02:14 am »

KoboldLord's sig says it all... PERFECTION!
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2011, 02:17 am »

I just realized that you have rotated the galactic map. It takes time for me to get used to it :P. I have played for years with Vanilla type setting.
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2011, 02:39 am »

I just realized that you have rotated the galactic map. It takes time for me to get used to it :P. I have played for years with Vanilla type setting.

Yes; the elevation and zoom have been adapted so one has a more top-down view and hopefully can see more at once - we hope that (as well as looking a bit new) this will help players be able to view more at once and more clearly, and control their assets on a larger strategic scale better without having to pan around the map and double-back to check things.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2011, 03:06 am »

Quick question.. i've been on alot of servers that you have so many units to buy  that you can't see them, is there a way to actually see all of them or is it the same? ;D
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2011, 03:11 am »

Quick question.. i've been on alot of servers that you have so many units to buy  that you can't see them, is there a way to actually see all of them or is it the same? ;D

Notice the three buttons where the map filter used to be? In order from top to bottom, they are:

  • Space units
  • Space structures
  • Research

They are toggle menus - the build options displayed on the bar correspond to whichever menu category you are currently browsing. This has a twofold effect - firstly, it's pretty neat and organised. Secondly, our numerous ships, orbital buildings and research trees have their own menus; so there are never too many things on the build bar.
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2011, 03:12 am »

SWEEEEEEEET!  :cool: :cool:
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2011, 10:50 am »

I'm so hyped right now! :up
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2011, 03:37 pm »

I'm curious about the hyperspace trade routes and the large number of space station construction options. I don't remember seeing those mentioned anywhere or at least mentioned in depth. But it looks very good and I am super excited.  :grin:
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2011, 06:09 pm »

I'm curious about the hyperspace trade routes and the large number of space station construction options. I don't remember seeing those mentioned anywhere or at least mentioned in depth. But it looks very good and I am super excited.  :grin:

Hyperspace trade routes now only give a mild bonus to hyperspace speed - this is to reflect that whilst they don't actually increase the actual hyperdrive speed on a vessel, regular hyperspace trade lanes are better patrolled, cleared, with more frequent ports and are generally easier to navigate, thus reducing journey time by a fraction as stops, diversions and awkward routes are minimised.

The hyperspace routes themselves in V1 are based on the canon major trade routes of the galaxy, with a few strategic minor ones thrown in; I believe the Hydian Way is visible in some of these images. Like in vanilla, trade lanes increase your income; but in UEaW they will be a significant economic tool and a strategic goal; securing trade routes and developing the economies around them will provide a disproportionate amount of wealth compared to simply grabbing random planets and filling them with mining facilities; hyperspace lanes as shown as an option in one of the screenshots are one example of how to best make use of your trading assets.

As for the large number of orbital structures, their purpose is twofold:

  • In V1 the game is space only - and, as such, to ensure that we deliver the economic, infrastructure and fortification aspects of the gameplay that we promised, we made a special effort to fully utilise orbital building potential.
  • In addition to point 1, these structures will be kept if and when we get to making V2 and adding land back in - the space build options haven't just been added as a stop-gap measure; they're fully functional and useful additions in themselves, and will add a second layer of options for fortification and development of planets when land is re-introduced - orbital economic structures can greatly boost income, for example, but are more vulnerable to hit-and-run attacks than land-based mining facilities.

I'm not going to go too far into what exactly is available to be built and their precise functions; but it's fair to say that there are multiple structures in each of the aforementioned categories - infrastructure, economy, fortification.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2011, 09:37 pm »

Wait, you said if and when land is implemented but then said when land is re-implemented, is it still up in the air regarding whether you will continue to make a land part or are you just trying to pull the wool over our eyes  :P
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2011, 10:57 pm »

Wait, you said if and when land is implemented but then said when land is re-implemented, is it still up in the air regarding whether you will continue to make a land part or are you just trying to pull the wool over our eyes  :P

Well first we need to get V1 made and released and patched and finished - and then before we can think about getting land started, we'd need to make sure that A) there is sufficient demand of people who want to play it and B) we'd need to recruit more people, as we'd be incapable of making such an amount of new graphical content for land in our current tiny state.
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2011, 11:55 pm »

who is the current development team? And I show interest!! :D
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2011, 11:58 pm »

who is the current development team? And I show interest!! :D

Right now? Pretty much just me and Shimrra, with help from Geroenimo when he has time.

Lyeman is around but there's not much mapping to do, and I've been doing news directly for some time so s-t-n hasn't had much to do with the forums being quite quiet too.

The VAs are still around, of course, but once they've got their recordings done, it's down to us to get the sounds coded in.
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2011, 03:07 am »

Well sadly I cannot mod in any form but I shall lend as much moral support as possible. :ultimate-eaw
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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2011, 03:19 am »

I am pretty well versed in Lua. However, If I were to help I wouldn't have time to do so until after March 24th; at least in a manner that would you be able to rely upon me.
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2011, 04:28 pm »

I love the way you've added those space lines! Facsinating!
Again, I know unfortuantly nothing about modding, I'd love to help but I'm afraid I have been regulated to the "Morale Support" section!
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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2011, 01:18 am »

My coding skills managed to ruin my game to the point I had to uninstall and then reinstall for it to work, therefore, I am also in the morale support team
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2011, 06:55 pm »

I love how you stuck all the planets on the right side of the galaxy! I did notice though that there was a hole at the bottom of the Slice...
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2011, 06:58 pm »

I guess that new map is more accurate than vanilla?
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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2011, 04:54 pm »

MUCH more accurate. The western side of the galaxy has lots of hyperspace anomalies that make it nearly impassable though there are stories of some people having hyperdrive failures and ending up out there. Because of this, your typical map of the star wars universe very rarely has any planets at all on the western side though there are a few. On vanilla, they ignore this though. There was a mildly good reason to, especially for not quite die-hard star wars fans but I found it a little unfortunate. They basically expanded the eastern side of the galaxy to fill in the entire thing.
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2011, 03:08 pm »

MUCH more accurate. The western side of the galaxy has lots of hyperspace anomalies that make it nearly impassable though there are stories of some people having hyperdrive failures and ending up out there. Because of this, your typical map of the star wars universe very rarely has any planets at all on the western side though there are a few. On vanilla, they ignore this though. There was a mildly good reason to, especially for not quite die-hard star wars fans but I found it a little unfortunate. They basically expanded the eastern side of the galaxy to fill in the entire thing.

they sacrificed accuracy for a better gameplay - it's easier to oversee everything in Vanilla
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Re: Exclusive Shots: Galactic Conquest WIP
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2011, 07:02 pm »

I like it better  :P
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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2011, 09:26 pm »

All of this is why I want to see the unfinished version uploaded somewhere.
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« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2011, 11:04 pm »

It's very nice looking. :)
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