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No, its a step backwords

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Total Members Voted: 11

[Doktor von Wer]

We were dicks to the natives, not to our own people [which is what America was back then]. In a family of brothers you still have to pay the bills...you expect just the elder brother to cover it all? That's pretty much what happened. We wanted money to pay the bills, as every country does, and a fraction of the soon-to-be USA said [much like the tea party does today] why should I have to pay? I don't want to pay taxes!

[Proving Rule 25 right here]

We did go about it a bit harshly; demanded it outright instead of going through the local councils which, in the opinions of a few historians I've been privileged enough to talk to or read the works of, was the main problem.. It is thought that the taxes would have probably been paid if it'd had been done through the right channels - the cash was being raised to fund British Army and colonial militia units to defend American settlements from the disgruntled natives, after all (!) - but unfortunately we were a bit obtuse.

Doesn't give them an excuse to rebel; waste a load of perfectly good tea; exterminate the natives and force them into reservations; come late for both World Wars; be half the cause of the Cold War and go around wrecking less wealthy countries in a blind moral crusade today, though.

[Darthme]

We did go about it a bit harshly; demanded it outright instead of going through the local councils which, in the opinions of a few historians I've been privileged enough to talk to or read the works of, was the main problem.. It is thought that the taxes would have probably been paid if it'd had been done through the right channels - the cash was being raised to fund British Army and colonial militia units to defend American settlements from the disgruntled natives, after all (!) - but unfortunately we were a bit obtuse.

Doesn't give them an excuse to rebel; waste a load of perfectly good tea; exterminate the natives and force them into reservations; come late for both World Wars; be half the cause of the Cold War and go around wrecking less wealthy countries in a blind moral crusade today, though.

Think of it this way, all we wanted was representation.  If America could have represented itself, we could have come to a peaceful agreement on which amount of taxation was right and I'm sure that most Americans would have payed it.  Also Britain sorted of screwed America over after the French/Indian War.  They promised us the Ohio valley, then won it, then said that no one could settle there, and let the French have it again.  They needed lots of tax money to cover the costs of the French/Indian War.  A lot of American settlers were understandably angry.  (Still doesn't give a right to tar-and-feather British Tax collectors)

 

[Republic at War]

What America needs to do for one is rewrite the constutution, some of the amendments are outmoded these days, the "guns dont kill people, people kill people" is complete hogwash these days, you look at just about every other western country which has outlawed guns and such and the murders caused by guns is miniscule (indeed some murder rates in these countries in general is tiny) And the right to raise a millitia? Thats the national guard, completely useless now...

Anyway back to the topic I think its a reasonable change, I wouldnt really care if the German army was renamed the wehrmacht, it doesnt mean "jew hating army" it means defensive forces which is essentially what the German army is these days since the constitution basically forbids offensive wars and the rules of engagement are basically you can shoot back once your boat is sunk, your position is overrun, and your plane is going down in flames -.-

[Zeta1127]

Actually, its not even really the national guard, because the world has changed so much. The original definition of a well trained militia was the citizen soldiers that owned their own guns.

[M Doyle]

don't atctually need any armies at all these days. we've got UAVs, UGVs and other drones.

'sides... if there's any big wars between first world contries and somewhere like america or the UK gets invaded we won't need a home guard... Kinda hard to stop nuclear missiles with rifles and machine guns...

[Darthme]

don't atctually need any armies at all these days. we've got UAVs, UGVs and other drones.

'sides... if there's any big wars between first world contries and somewhere like america or the UK gets invaded we won't need a home guard... Kinda hard to stop nuclear missiles with rifles and machine guns...

At that point we call Bad Squadron and let them take care of it.

[Republic at War]

Nuclear weapons are political weapons, the only states that would actually use them these days would be Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea, and Iran if they ever get them.

Israel cause they would definitely nuke Iran if they got too far along in their nuclear project or some other muslim nation that they felt overly threatened by.

India/Pakistan because they hate eachother and have relatively little restraint in their relationship if they go to war again.

North Korea because the ruling dynasty is insane and would totally do it if they thought it could lead to reunification on their terms (even if Seoul became a radioactive crater in the process)

Iran because if Israel pissed them off enough they would retaliate (I dont like Israeli politics but nuking them is a wee bit extreme, carpet bombings fine though.

[Stockholm Syndrome (pORG13i)]

NK ain't in a position to use nuclear warfare.
they depend on China and Russia, and they won't aloow them to use such weaponry.
Pakistan and India - I refuse to believe that they would actually use those weapons against each other. They fight more like a cold war. In the hands of indian or pakistani extremists...well let's hope that won't ever happen.
Iran/Israel.....got a point there.

but yeah: why would Canada need a strong army? they need a fleet, true. but besides that...

[Republic at War]

You gotta keep those polar bears and mooses in check, i swear they are making an Alliance against the canadians!

[aceofhicks]

You gotta keep those polar bears and mooses in check, i swear they are making an Alliance against the canadians!

Just the Polar Bears, the Moose are good

[Darthme]

Just the Polar Bears, the Moose are good

I believe the plural is Miise. 

Maybe we should just rename this the Canada topic?