Topic: The New Unit List (and other updates) (Read 5277 times)

evilbobthebob · « **on:** March 10, 2010, 01:08 pm »

Since the last front page news post, there has been a lot of changes with UEAW; a lot of them are changes for the better, and have meant that the mod is now progressing at a relatively quick pace considering how small our team is.

The biggest change that affects you as a player is to our unit list, attached at the bottom of this post. You'll see we've made a lot of adjustments to every faction, bringing it more in line with canon and providing as varied a unit roster as possible. If you think we've missed anything, let us know! The list is still slightly flexible in places. Any suggestions for Sith ships would be helpful, but these need to be from the 4000BBY to 1000BBY date range to fit with the Old Republic's ships.

We're also making a number of updates to the UEAW website, most importantly the gallery. This will now show our latest model renders as seen on Moddb (Don't forget to check out our page and become a watcher).

We are still looking for coders, modellers and skinners, so if you are skilled in any of those areas, apply in the usual place on the forum.

As a final update, we're now affiliated with the Alpha Blue modding group. Head over to their website if you want to find out a lot about modding and all the great mods that are being produced there.

Argonnath · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:19 pm »

Seems ok. No Venator for Empire )= But still.

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:29 pm »

There may be some left over from the Clone Wars

Doktor von Wer · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:35 pm »

The Venator will be available for the Empire but it will be essentially obsolete technologically; whilst still a big beast with lots of fighters. Missed off the list since it originally didn't have cross-era duplicates but I added them to complete it yesterday, and missed that one.

Edition attached, though it's just the Venator changed.

Sarcastic · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:41 pm »

I will rag on this again. Blackmoon Squadron doesn't fit into the timeframe of the New Republic Era. They may have been around but had no impact until the Yuuzhan Vong War.

Otherwise, props for finally getting the MC90 in.

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:47 pm »

Well, who would you suggest to replace them?

Doktor von Wer · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:51 pm »

Quote from: Sarcastic on March 10, 2010, 05:41 pm

I will rag on this again. Blackmoon Squadron doesn't fit into the timeframe of the New Republic Era. They may have been around but had no impact until the Yuuzhan Vong War.

Boo hoo. If you have other squadron suggestions they can be done easily.

Sarcastic · « **Reply #7 on:** March 10, 2010, 05:54 pm »

Keep Rogue Squadron. The only other squad that was close to it's prominence was Cracken's Flight Group and most people probably don't remember it.

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #8 on:** March 10, 2010, 06:01 pm »

OK, we'll keep that in mind.

Vledius · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2010, 12:08 am »

actually how about wraith squadron?
it was in a couple series of books
after VI i think

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2010, 12:27 pm »

Good call! I'll look into it.

DaveAshton · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2010, 02:20 pm »

Why do all the hero squadrons have to be fighter-based (ie Rogue, 181st etc)?

Any chance of a more heavy-hitting one, such as:

Gold Squadron (mainly Y-wings, but during Endor they also had X-wings) http://starwars.wikia.comwiki/Gold_Squadron_%28Rebel_Alliance%29
or
Dagger Squadron (B-wings) http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dagger_Squadron

Just a thought.

Stockholm Syndrome (pORG13i) · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2010, 09:38 pm »

I actuelly like the idea of gold squadron...finally a bomber-hero...and they were a main force destroying DSI

501. legion · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2010, 10:20 am »

Yes, that's a very good idea

! But how many heroes are in

at the moment? Too many heroes are bad for the balance

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2010, 11:15 am »

Check out the unit list. We're only having between 2 and 5 per faction. As you say, heroes mess up balance. The main reason is that there simply aren't a great number of well-known space heroes for a lot of the time frames.

Stockholm Syndrome (pORG13i) · « **Reply #15 on:** March 18, 2010, 11:36 am »

yeah....qouestion: is it possible to create a hero squadron with different fighter types? like i.e. Rogue Squadron consisting of 4 X-Wing, 3 y-wings 2 A-wings & 2 b-wings?

btw: I'd keep rogue squadron of integrate gold squadron..

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #16 on:** March 18, 2010, 11:38 am »

Yeah, that should be possible. I'll talk to Chris about it. The only problem with something like that would be dogfighting. The bomber class units would probably die pretty quickly. Then there's the whole issue of A-Wings being significantly faster than all the other craft in the squadron

DaveAshton · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2010, 07:38 pm »

Quote from: evilbobthebob on March 18, 2010, 11:38 am

Yeah, that should be possible. I'll talk to Chris about it. The only problem with something like that would be dogfighting. The bomber class units would probably die pretty quickly. Then there's the whole issue of A-Wings being significantly faster than all the other craft in the squadron

Could you use the <Max_Squad_Size> tag to help with that? Set it at, for example, <Max_Squad_Size>4</Max_Squad_Size>, have a 12 craft squadron and have 3 squads, one of 4 X-, one of 4 Y-, and one of 4 A-Wings. Would the game know (or could they be ordered in a specific way in the squadron's XML) that the X-wings go together, Y-wings together and A-wings together?

That way, it's only one hero slot (and only one squadron) but you can use the various ship tyes independently as/when required.

Doktor von Wer · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2010, 07:40 pm »

We know how to code, lol...

Of course we could split it up into multiple elements, but then it's not exactly a single hero squadron, really.

Shimrra · « **Reply #19 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:00 pm »

You have then 3 Hero Units...I saw this in another mod..think it was SAU - the 181st was splitted in two parts...

Fore Admiral Disayle · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2010, 05:07 am »

Woohoo! The Inexie made it in!

Nice work, guys. I'm really looking forward to this.

Random_Jedi2476 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 01, 2010, 10:55 pm »

Excelent! I'm so happy with the new unit list I can't even express. So happy the hammerhead and Ebon hawk made it into the Old Republic Era. I don't want to seem presumptive since I don't know a whole lot about the expanded universe, But I think some people are getting a little nitpicky with certain fighter squadrons not being exactly chronologically accurate or having different fighters in the same squadron. I know you all want this game to be absolutely perfect but I think we should focusing a little more on THANKING these guys for what they've already done. NO mod i've personally ever seen has compared to the vast scope of this mod. Great work guys!

evilbobthebob · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2010, 11:15 pm »

Thanks a lot! I'm glad people are happy with the list. Of course, for anyone who wants precise canon, I can only recommend Phoenix Rising. Head over to www.eawpr.net if you want to check it out.

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