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ravagewolf

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General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« on: August 15, 2009, 11:18 am »

I am new to this forum though I have been following this mod on mod db for some time. The details and skins to your models surpasses that of most the other major mods. I am still reading through most the topics so I apologise if this is a double post.
 If you add Jan Donna as a hero it would be good if you could give him a heavily modified assault frigate MK1. There is a design that is a cross between an assault frigate MK1 and a nebulon MK2 frigate. This model as yet to my knowledge still be attempted in any mod. I know from what I have read that the assault frigate MK1 will more likely be dropped in favour of the assault frigate MK2 which was built in larger numbers and more cost effective. Perhaps the assault frigates MK1 could be built at Rendil. For me the assault frigate MK1 was quite important to the rebels in the early days. It gave them an edge over the imperial dreadnoughts and ships of similar classes. The rebels were well know for there ability to modify old designs of ships until newer classes of purpose built warships were available. The assault frigate MK1 was a testament to what rebel technicans could do with limited resources and time. It may of been heavily out classed by heavier imperial cruisers but still deserves a place in the rebel fleet. Anyway thats just my views. Whatever the outcome keep up the great work and your efforts are much appreciated. thanks (duel)
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Re: General Jan Donna Flag ship
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 11:30 am »

You mean Dodonna?
« Last Edit: August 15, 2009, 11:46 am by Argonnath »
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Re: General Jan Donna Flag ship
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 11:41 am »

lol. Early morning typing error.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2009, 11:47 am »

I say yes he is important hero.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 12:05 pm »

Both the Assault Frigate Mk I and the Assault Frigate Mk II are planned for V1; I don't know about Dodonna though.

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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2009, 12:10 pm »

That model is really good.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2009, 01:27 pm »

For anyone that nots to sure about what the modified assault frigate MK1 looks like they can go onto starwars.wikia.com. Look up Assault frigate MK1 and scroll down to the bottom of the page and look at the variant. There is an article that Jan Dodonna used a modified Assault frigate MK1 as his command ship. So we can assume it was heavier armed than the standard versions. If I can find the article I will post it.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2009, 09:36 pm »

First glance I thought it was the girl admiral from Kotor, lol. Still, I know who you're talking about, read him in a book somewhere, he was a general during the earlier days of the rebellion, he also made the A-Wing, correct? I not sure what'd be too special about him....
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2009, 09:44 pm »

I guess that he is important leader like Acbar so acbar special power would be good.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 09:33 am »

General Dodonna was a tactician and strategist who help formulate the plan to attack the first death star.

Fleet Engagements

He should be able to identify weak points in enemy super weapons such as the death star, eclipse, sovereign etc. All ships / fighters will receive a combat bonus against these terror weapons. If his fleet is victorious and he survives the death star would be destroyed. Effectively he would act like rogue squadron in this role. I think his ship special abilities should include the shield boost power and assault mode.

Ground Combat

I think he should be deployed with four squads of rebel troopers and given a massive bonus as a defensive general to his troops.

Passive Ability

When he is above a friendly system he could give a price reduction to Assault frigates MK1 and A-Wings.

These are just some of my idea's to stimulate debate. (duel)
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 10:18 am »

I'm going to have to dissagree on the ground combat and fleet engagments...

Engagements:
If I am aware correctly, it was Luke who finally did the Death Star run, without him they would've failed, and the rebel base would've been destroyed, so no Rouge Squadron type abilities... As for the others, I guess that'd be good.

Ground Combat:
Did he even participate in land battles physically??

Passive ability: sounds good.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 10:53 am »

True it was luke that destroy the death star, but without the tactical planning he may not of succeeded. However being a jedi it probably would of made no difference anyway using the force and all. Perhaps he could just give a bonus to Assault frigates and A-Wings in combat, that would be alot easier and more canon.

On Yavin he held the defense against the imperial troops long enough to allow the base to be evacuated and relocated. He was the last to leave and was thought to be dead. He also managed to sabotage the base which inflicted heavy casualities on the imperials as one last act of defiance. So I guess he could be given the sabotage special ability. Though I doubt the old man can sprint, lol
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2009, 04:22 pm »

I think that he should be given a rouge squadron-type death star destroy ablility because

1) hes like the smartest dude
2)The rebels should have two ships capable of blowing up the death star; it is annoying to have only rouge squadron to police teh whole galaxy
3)ummm....

Shield boost and assault mode sound good; the MK1 is not a very powerful ship, so that combo wont be too uber

On the ground, he should be deployed with a plex squad and three trooper squads, i think.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2009, 10:28 pm »

I still think against the whole Death Star destroy ability...

And I'm still against the multi-squad landing, I mean, all the field commanders are single squads, why should he be an exception? Seems unfair to give him multiple squads.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2009, 10:39 pm »

Shield boost and assault mode sound good; the MK1 is not a very powerful ship, so that combo wont be too uber

On the ground, he should be deployed with a plex squad and three trooper squads, i think.

Our job :P. You don't know how space combat is going to change in V1 ;).
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2009, 02:28 am »

I thought it would be a bit different to suggest a ship as the death star nemesis. Rogue/red squadron were to easily destroyed in large space battles or you ended up hiding them from the enemy to make sure they survived the battle. The imperials have almost all the advantages in super weapons so it stands to reason that the rebels need something to counter act these odds. As it stands in V1 space combat is going to change quite a bit. Is there topic in this forum which explains this a bit more?
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2009, 10:12 am »

No, it is secret.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2009, 10:54 pm »

Well this shall prove to be interesting.  (duel)
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2009, 06:33 am »

First glance I thought it was the girl admiral from Kotor, lol. Still, I know who you're talking about, read him in a book somewhere, he was a general during the earlier days of the rebellion, he also made the A-Wing, correct? I not sure what'd be too special about him....
lol Jacen just for clarification its not JAN Dodanna in KOTOR its Admiral FORN Dodanna, his grandmother if im right.... and im not gonna type out how many greats....  that would take kinda long lol
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2009, 07:22 am »

Yeah yeah...I'm not THAT big of a star wars fan here...I don't memorize every single detail.  :sure

Anyways, I retain my earlier stance, I think against the whole "Able to destroy Death Star" thing...even if he planned the assault.
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2009, 08:38 pm »

I dunno about putting in Jan Dodonna. He's only really involved in the Battles of Yavin that I can think of. After that he was captured by the Empire. He's definitely canon and had a fairly major role in the Battle of Yavin, but beyond that...
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2009, 09:06 pm »

He was also included during the time um... who was that imperial women's name again...he was a prisoner aboard the Lusankya right?
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Re: General Jan Dodonna Flag ship
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2009, 12:26 am »

Ysanne Isard was in charge of the prison inside Lusankya.
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