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[darklordnenonen]

What plane from WW2 fascinates you the most?
For me it is the ME-262! The worlds first operational jetfighter! Beautiful, but deadly!
A fine machine built for the worst regime in history!
Would like to see what you like!

p.s..I am not a nazi..better say that right away!

[aceofhicks]

I love the Spitfire. And, it looks Sexy, errr, it looks good

[darklordnenonen]

My country SWEDEN used spitfires until the -fifties; only for observation!

[Argonnath]

zero... But I don't know which war they used.

[aceofhicks]

The Zero was used in WWII

[Mr. Recluse, the Beta Tester(Greiv55)]

Mine would have to either be P-51 Mustang: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Bott4.jpg

The B-17 Flying Fortress: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/B-17_on_bomb_run.jpg

The P-40 Warhawk: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Curtiss_P-40E_Warhawk_at_the_National_Museum_of_the_United_States_Air_Force.jpg

Or the Messerschmitt ME-262: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Messerschmitt_Me_262A_at_the_National_Museum_of_the_USAF.jpg

[Kratas]

SPITFIRE SPITFIRE

[Sergeant Lyeman]

STUKA STUKA!!!!!! *sirens blaze*

[SoulPain (FanEAW)]

hmmm...

Supermarine Spitfire Mk1:

Crew: Pilot only

Wingspan: 36ft 11 in (11.25m)

Length: 29ft. 11 in (9.12m)

Height: 11 feet 5 inches (3.48m)

Engine: Single 1,030 hp Rolls-Royce Merlin III twelve-cylinder liquid-cooled V12

Maximum Speed: 362 mph (584km/h) at 19,000 ft (5,790m)

Range: 395 miles

Service Ceiling: 34,556ft (10,532m)

Armament:

Eight wing mounted .303 Browning machine guns

and as a bomber...

Avro 683 Lancaster:

Lancaster, also known as "Lanc" - the most used British heavy bomber of WWII. Lancasters flew 156,000 missions. The Lancaster was a development of the unsatisfactory twin-engine Manchester. It had a rectangular fuselage, mid-set wing and twin tail fins and rudders. It was able to carry very heavy bombs and bulky 'special' weapons; with modifications to the bomb-bay even 10.000kg bombs were carried.

Lancaster has a Martin upper turret with two 50-calibre guns. Maritime patrol versions had no top turret, andJirka Wagner only the front turret was armed with two .303-calibre machine guns. Drafty, noisy, and uncomfortable on long flights, the Lancaster was nevertheless strong, reliable, and a delight to fly.

 General characteristics Lancaster Mk. I

Primary function Heavy bomber

Power plant Four Rolls-Royce Merlin XX (or XXII) engines
Thrust 4x 1,460 HP 4x 1,090 kW 
Wingspan 102 ft 31.1 m 
Length 69.25 ft 21.1 m 
Height 19.6 ft 5.97 m 
Wingarea 1,292 sq ft 120 sq m
Weight empty 36,828 lb 16,705 kg 
max. 70,000 lb 31,750 kg
Speed max. 287 mph 462 km/h
cruising 210 mph 338 km/h 
Ceiling 24,500 ft 7,470 m 
Range 1,662 mi 2,675 km
Armament 10x 7.7mm machine gun; up to 9,980 kg bombs
Crew Seven (pilot, flight engineer, navigator, bomb aimer, radio operator and two gunners)
First flight 9.1.1941
Date deployed 1942 
Number built 7,378 (incl. 430 in Canada)

The Lancaster was also a base design for more that half of the late designs of the allied bombers.

[M Doyle]

I love the liberator and FLYING FORTRESS

Liberator


Flying fortress  wOOt!


though it's not a plane i also like the Pacific trains of WWII and beyond,

[aceofhicks]

Going for Bombers, I also Like the Avro Lancaster:

[Emperor Onasi]

Aww man you guys left out the Wildcat... How can you leave that plane out of a WWII topic for so long? Im ashamed......

lol

High Five, Very good now!

[Mand'alor Trebor]

hell cat

p51 mustang

p38 lightning   (best plane ever!)

spitfire

[Corusca Fire]

erm... heck cat?

[Mand'alor Trebor]

heii get's replaced with heck

[darklordnenonen]

I forgot to name a bomber..
well..I'll choose the JU-88,which also was a fighter,nightfighter,bomber, torpdoebomber,photo recceplane!
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVq7oS9

[e^(πi)+1=0]

Me-163. World's only operational rocket-fighter.
then the mustang, the aerodynamics of it are incredible.

[SoulPain (FanEAW)]

I love the liberator and FLYING FORTRESS

Liberator


Flying fortress  wOOt!


though it's not a plane i also like the Pacific trains of WWII and beyond,

if u love these two bombers then you love the Avro Lancaster, because the USAF's base design for both these planes were the Avro 683 Lancaster, have you remarked the rectangular fuselage of the Liberator? it is the same basic design called 'brick' designs, and of course they remodeled a litle the fuselage on the B-17.

[Ceteral]

The Spitfire Mk. IX is the most gorgeous piece of machinery ever assembled.

B-29 Superfortress. Still technically the most powerful bomber ever. No other plane has dropped a nuke on someone.

[Rome]

The Spitfire is undoubtedly The Best Ever Pound For Pound Fighter Plane Ever Created Of Its Time, Beautiful, Slick & Bladdy Fast.

Lancaster Bomber Was The Work Horse Of The War & The Best Bomber Of The War, It Looked Cool, It Worked, & Didn't Need All The Broom Sticks Sticking Out Its Window's.

You Might Say The Flying Fortress But Its Just Like A Double Decker Bus With Big Guns.

Or You Might Say Mustang, But The Only Good Thing About The Mustang Was The Drop Tanks & The Fact That It Had A Boble Canopy For Better Vision.

The Facts Are That Both British Planes Out Done Any Thing It Served With Or Even Fought Against.

[e^(πi)+1=0]

the Mustang equaled the performance and had much longer range. the spitifire was great, but by the end of the war was phased out.

[aceofhicks]

Well, one this show I was watching, it was about the Greatest Fighters of all time, and the Top 3 were:

3: Raptor
2: Spitfire
1: Mustang

The mustang was rated 1 only because it had a longer range.

[Ceteral]

Well, one this show I was watching, it was about the Greatest Fighters of all time, and the Top 3 were:

3: Raptor
2: Spitfire
1: Mustang

The mustang was rated 1 only because it had a longer range.

Raptor? The F-22? We have no idea if it's a great yet. Dumbest. Show. Ever.

[aceofhicks]

I think it was the Raptor, I'm not sure about #3. I think it might be #6 now that I think about it.

[Mandalor Vipeer]

I like the P-38 Lightning. It totally powned the P-51 and spitfire, and just about every other plane from WWII. The B-17 Flying Fortress, and P-61 Black Widow are the best bombers ever.

[Sergeant Lyeman]

any other Stuka fans in here?

[Mandalor Vipeer]

Stuka's got killed. How bout the ME109?

[Rome]

hahaha 109 that got slaughtered by the Spitfire lol as i said not alot comes close to the Spitfire, its proven it self so many times and the facts speek for themselves.

[Mandalor Vipeer]

Which version of it? I do agree that it was a very good fighter. And again, based on statistics the P-38 could literally fly circles around the spitfire. Another thing I've noticed, is that the pilot makes the plane. The spitfires are really good, because the British have really good pilots. German's were decent, but obviously they underestimated the British, and got cocky.

[e^(πi)+1=0]

Of course, until Spitfires went Griffin engine they were dominated by FW190s.

[Mand'alor Trebor]

mustangs  would kill spitfire's  it had a slightly better turning ration and self sealing tanks as aposed to what the spit had

[Mandalor Vipeer]

P-38 could still outfly it. They could styill down planes after they ran out of ammunition. They basically landed on the enemy plane and the extra wingspan that they had plus the twin fuselages busted the current creating the lift over the wings of the enemy aircraft, and it also busted the wings up sometimes.

Plus they were fast.

[Mand'alor Trebor]

2 pratt and whit's would indeed make it fast, and it's 40 mm cannon was great

[Mandalor Vipeer]

Yes. Plus it's gliding profile allowed it to glide farther thalmost any other plane in the world at the time. The average pilot could fly back out from enemy lines to base with no power. It was an awesome plane indeed.

[Mand'alor Trebor]

it's downfall was it's shape though, the japanesse knew exactly what is was when it was comeing and would use it's somewhat lesser turning ability to thire advantage

[Rome]

if your interested, this is good reading, it wont answer the question "which was better" but its worth the read if you are interested.

[e^(πi)+1=0]

mustangs  would kill spitfire's  it had a slightly better turning ration and self sealing tanks as aposed to what the spit had

dude, all planes after 1941 had self-sealing tanks.

P-38 could still outfly it. They could styill down planes after they ran out of ammunition. They basically landed on the enemy plane and the extra wingspan that they had plus the twin fuselages busted the current creating the lift over the wings of the enemy aircraft, and it also busted the wings up sometimes.

Plus they were fast.

actaully, the P-38J's max speed was 390 mph as opposed to the P-51D's 437mph. not to mention the P-38's rate of roll was thoroughly pathetic; and that "shooting down without ammo" thing is just plain pointless; do you see any pilots doing that? no, when you're out of ammo you've got no choice but to leave.

[M Doyle]

I like the B-29 super fortress bomber, as, this plane


was the plne that did THIS to japan and ended the war against USA-Japan.


...worlds best bombs ever dropped....

[Mand'alor Trebor]

dude, all planes after 1941 had self-sealing tanks.actaully, the P-38J's max speed was 390 mph as opposed to the P-51D's 437mph. not to mention the P-38's rate of roll was thoroughly pathetic; and that "shooting down without ammo" thing is just plain pointless; do you see any pilots doing that? no, when you're out of ammo you've got no choice but to leave.

not true, the japanese were known for aiming at the fuel tanks to make an easy kill, they didnt realise they had self sealers

[Mandalor Vipeer]

dude, all planes after 1941 had self-sealing tanks.actaully, the P-38J's max speed was 390 mph as opposed to the P-51D's 437mph. not to mention the P-38's rate of roll was thoroughly pathetic; and that "shooting down without ammo" thing is just plain pointless; do you see any pilots doing that? no, when you're out of ammo you've got no choice but to leave.

My uncle did so did a lot of pilots in his squadron they were protecting a group of bombers when they were jumped and they ran out of ammo. My uncle got three kills with no ammo. Seems kind of pathetic that he was killed on the ground. And 390 was their max safe speed. If you know what I mean. P-38's had a crappy roll rate and turn radius, yes, but if a P-51 did a drop spin, it would rip apart. The P-38 could do this and a basic 180 afterwards, which at that time was a very great feat for a pilot to actually live through.

[Mand'alor Trebor]

true about it's endurance

[SoulPain (FanEAW)]

I like the B-29 super fortress bomber, as, this plane


was the plne that did THIS to japan and ended the war against USA-Japan.


...worlds best bombs ever dropped....

yeah the B-29 superfortress was the devil... the US employed them to drop nukes... retarded... also, i dont think US would have survived the Battle of Britain with their mustangs and superfortresses... US was the best on ground, british was the best on air and ground (for allies) including tactics and fighter/bomber pilots experience and veterancy.

[Ceteral]

yeah the B-29 superfortress was the devil... the US employed them to drop nukes... retarded... also, i dont think US would have survived the Battle of Britain with their mustangs and superfortresses... US was the best on ground, british was the best on air and ground (for allies) including tactics and fighter/bomber pilots experience and veterancy.

You tell me that ten times as many people wouldn't have died if those nukes hadn't been dropped. Tell me.

[Mandalor Vipeer]

Ten times that many people wouldn't have died without the nukes (you told me to tell you so I did)

And the USA would have survived the Battle of Britain if the Germans would have nuked the crap out of it. Hate to tell you but the United States isn't in Britain. They weren't worried about the Germans attacking them in Britain. But just for the record, one of the best pilots to fight during that battle was an American pilot. One of many who bested a lot of British pilots. And I'm not saying anything against British pilots either. They are good. I would rather be a British pilot than be an American pilot. British planes don't require as much maintanece and aren't as likely to break down during flight.)

[Rome]

Germans  wouldn't have gone as far as nuking Britain as they believed in there own superiority.

Even tho us British only got a small island we did better then ANY country would have done with what we had at the time, the yanks knew nothing about German tactics or weapons and were as useful as an inflatable submarine (at the start of the war) after a few stupid mistakes  and some major ones the yanks fitted right in and done well, but you gota remember we needed ur help as much as you needed ours. and they are facts.

[Mandalor Vipeer]

That's sort of what I said, except the pilots from other nations did help a lot. Britain scared Hitler into calling off the attack altogether. If he would have gone ahead and landed his army, he would have won, then taken Russia out. America would have to fight the entire central continents area to win. They would probably have lost because Hitler would have gotten the jets and the other tech that he ised the battle of the bulge to accomplish (It almost worked then, but they needed fuel.) Hitler would have died later because he had so many health problems (siphylis, terrets and several other diseases) So yes the Brits probably were the best fighting country in the war. On top of scaring the Germans out, they were also supplying Australia a little too, because Australia had no real army or navy. (It had only 1 battleship and a few light cruisers.) And Britain still survived.

[Rome]

yeah sorry viper lol good points m8

[e^(πi)+1=0]

Ten times that many people wouldn't have died without the nukes

That is true; a US invasion of Japan was estimated to cost 1 million dead (not dead and wounded, but dead).

[Mandalor Vipeer]

Plus the fact that people are still dying today from the bombs. The Japs were dumb enough to rebuild things on the same ground as where it went off. Therefore the are getting radiation from it. And radiation is bad.

[Mand'alor Trebor]

the term "Japs" is considered Derogitory and should edited to avoid a confrontation

[Rome]

us British call then nips & the Germans jerries, for as long as i can remember lol

[D]

there isnt alot of space in japan to go build cities, and not much was known at the time about the sideeffects of radiation exposure due to A-bomb. one could say it was the perfect place to go find out the long term and short term effects of an A-bomb would be on human life.

and the dropping of the 2 A-bombs by the US was arguably the biggest war crime committed in WWII, on par with the holocaust. It was the deliberate targeting of civilian population centers to inspire terror in a nation. It could be called the greatest nation sponsored terrorist attack of all time...from a certain point of view (to quote ben kenobi)

It precipitated the cold war, and fortunately for us the cold war remained cold. but it was a close call.

And those million american lives were not nessecarily in jeopardy, because there is evidence pointing toward japanese surrender before the A-bombs were dropped. It is highly debatable.

[Mandalor Vipeer]

You're right there. But I'm just calling them Japs because I'm too lazy to type the rest out.

[Ceteral]

there isnt alot of space in japan to go build cities, and not much was known at the time about the sideeffects of radiation exposure due to A-bomb. one could say it was the perfect place to go find out the long term and short term effects of an A-bomb would be on human life.

and the dropping of the 2 A-bombs by the US was arguably the biggest war crime committed in WWII, on par with the holocaust. It was the deliberate targeting of civilian population centers to inspire terror in a nation. It could be called the greatest nation sponsored terrorist attack of all time...from a certain point of view (to quote ben kenobi)

It precipitated the cold war, and fortunately for us the cold war remained cold. but it was a close call.

And those million american lives were not nessecarily in jeopardy, because there is evidence pointing toward japanese surrender before the A-bombs were dropped. It is highly debatable.

The Japanese people were extremely honorable. And extremely brave. Iwo Jima is exactly what would have happened.

[Mandalor Vipeer]

Maybe, but they did hint at maybe surrendering before we dropped the A-bombs on them.