Topic: Droid Commando (Read 1111 times)

Peace Trooper · « **on:** November 01, 2008, 08:14 pm »

the droids from the latest episode of star wars the clone wars, from what i am getting from the show they have very thick armor and they can disguise there voice to sound like a clone

Reasons for rejecting request:
-disagrees with the CIS strategy
-does not fit into the CIS gameplay mechanics
-only has one cannon appearance
-unanimous staff agreement against it

Sarcastic · « **Reply #1 on:** November 02, 2008, 03:34 am »

Ohh can we get Naboo, Geonosian, Mandalorian, Mustarian, Muun, Wampa, Ewok, Rancor, Talz, and Mon Calamari Commandos too!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #2 on:** November 02, 2008, 03:53 am »

Quote from: Sarcastic on November 02, 2008, 03:34 am

Ohh can we get Naboo, Geonosian, Mandalorian, Mustarian, Muun, Wampa, Ewok, Rancor, Talz, and Mon Calamari Commandos too!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

... ok thats firstly

completly off topic
and second: no we dont but i request this unit

Django (sunfalcon) · « **Reply #3 on:** November 02, 2008, 06:43 pm »

what are its capabilities what weapons does it carry how is it useful. I need to know these things before i vote.

Solar · « **Reply #4 on:** November 02, 2008, 08:25 pm »

What does it look like, what part of the droid army does it fit into, how useful is the voice changer when any clone can see it is a droid and how could it be implemented in UEAW?

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 02, 2008, 09:59 pm »

droid commando does not fit in at all to how the CIS operates.
Another instance of Lucasarts ruining star wars.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #6 on:** November 02, 2008, 10:07 pm »

the droid commandos in the show were used as a strike force to take out a republic comm center, they were sucessful until commander cody and caption rex arrived and took back the station they have normal weapons of any other droid, but prebebly just little more powerful and if you have seen the show you know what they look like

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 02, 2008, 10:09 pm »

yeah. the CIS wouldn't do that. obviously, Lucas has gone crazy. The real CIS would send a mass attack. they're droids. cheap, easy to replace... no need for covert operations.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #8 on:** November 02, 2008, 10:16 pm »

i dont know if you noticed but they wanted to take over the station quitely so the rest of the republic wouldent know and there mass force was headed for Kamino to take out the cloneing vats once and for all

Django (sunfalcon) · « **Reply #9 on:** November 02, 2008, 11:04 pm »

I vote no if they are just like regular droids.

The Ferral One (Jedi Ferret) · « **Reply #10 on:** November 02, 2008, 11:16 pm »

Well, to me these sound like the driod version of those rebel infiltrators.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #11 on:** November 02, 2008, 11:36 pm »

Quote from: Django (sunfalcon) on November 02, 2008, 11:04 pm

I vote no if they are just like regular droids.

they were better than regular droids, they had thermal detonators better armor and could mimic the voices of clone troopers

Dr. Doozer · « **Reply #12 on:** November 03, 2008, 02:09 am »

I've seen the episode, and it doesn't fit into the grandioso vision of how the CIS operates. No go for me.

Django (sunfalcon) · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2008, 02:13 am »

same here its a no go for me as well.

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2008, 09:59 pm »

Quote from: Peace Trooper on November 02, 2008, 10:16 pm

i dont know if you noticed but they wanted to take over the station quitely so the rest of the republic wouldent know and there mass force was headed for Kamino to take out the cloneing vats once and for all

first off, i don't watch the show and strongly dislike it, to put it nicely. secondly, that doesn't counter my reason for being against it. its not how the CIS works. they would have simply blockaded and jammed it, and moved in on Kamino.

Solar · « **Reply #15 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:02 pm »

Yeah, the republic had no idea about the naboo incident did they?

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:05 pm »

huh? i don't get what you mean by that...

Dr. Doozer · « **Reply #17 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:06 pm »

He's saying "Did the Republic have any idea Naboo was blockaded?"

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:09 pm »

oh! i don't think the CIS jammed communications then, because they wanted to make it known they were blockeding them, use it as a means of coercion. but if communications were jammed, a warning couldn't get out in time to disrupt a surprise attack.

Dr. Doozer · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:14 pm »

They did jam transmissions to and from the planet.

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:21 pm »

i see. you're probably right, but its not really important. the point is, the CIS does not use covert operations, therefore this request is no good.

Django (sunfalcon) · « **Reply #21 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:50 pm »

I agree with e.

Dr. Doozer · « **Reply #22 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:51 pm »

Also I hate this idea myself. It just doesn't make the fold of the CIS brutishness meet well enough.

Django (sunfalcon) · « **Reply #23 on:** November 03, 2008, 10:55 pm »

CIS used brute force and numbers not covert operations.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #24 on:** November 04, 2008, 01:43 am »

though i do not agree with what you people say i will defend to the death your fight to say it

in that ocassion it was nessasary for the cis to use tactics to send some troops down whail the rest of there army was on route to Kamino say whatever you want but the CIS knows stragity...

Django (sunfalcon) · « **Reply #25 on:** November 04, 2008, 02:15 am »

their strategy is to overwhelm the opponent with sheer numbers and brute force.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2008, 05:36 am »

i know overwelm them with better armored more powerful droids

this is a better armored more powerful droid xD

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2008, 03:05 pm »

that;s the thing though. they didn't care to make powerful units, that's a waste of money. building 10 battle droids would be cheaper than building one with advanced weapons, therefore why not build 10? that was the CIS's thinking. sorry, peace, but if you're the only one for this, you're outvoted.

Mr. Recluse, the Beta Tester(Greiv55) · « **Reply #28 on:** November 17, 2008, 01:20 am »

Quote from: e^(πi)+1=0 on November 03, 2008, 09:59 pm

first off, i don't watch the show and strongly dislike it, to put it nicely. secondly, that doesn't counter my reason for being against it. its not how the CIS works. they would have simply blockaded and jammed it, and moved in on Kamino.

Actually E if you even watched the episode you must've missed 90-100% of it for it was mentioned Why the CIS had Commandos and sent them in to secure the post...

The place was transmitting an all-clear signal through the Republic's comm channels. So if the CIS simply blockaded the place, Jammed the signal, and decided to go in and take it in a mass attack... The republic would have found out about the attack before the CIS had a chance to land their troops, and would have sent a task force to the base and another one to Kamino. Thus why the CIS would make them.

Also an addition to the Variable Vocabulator... If you have seen the episode you would have seen in two instances of its usefulness. One was of when Rex and Cody arrived in system one of the droids used a clone's helmet and the vocabulator to make itself sound like a clone. And again when Rex and Cody arrived when another commando was put in some clone trooper armor and tried to get them to leave.

Also the CIS did infact didn't stick with cheaper droids if you've noticed in the cartoon, books, games, and Movies.
Episode 1: the introduction to Vulture droids, B1s, and Droidekas Episode 2: the CIS begins use of larger more heavily armored B2s, and Dwarf Spider droids.
Episode 3: the introduction of Magnaguards, Crabdroids, Buzz Droids, and the Octuptarra Tri-droids.
Heavy Metal Jedi: Introduction to the rancor-sized B3s

If the CIS could afford these in large numbers I am sure they could afford a B1 Battle Droid modified(with tougher armor and a new vocabulator) for Covert OPs.

Whomever said that the commando droids were "another example of Lucasarts ruining Star Wars" if you haven't realised this is a TV show/movie produced from the mind of George himself.

I myself am for Droid Commandos as they could spice up the playing experience.

Mandalor Vipeer · « **Reply #29 on:** November 17, 2008, 02:46 am »

I agree. There is always a place to use tactics. Think of Geonosis on episode 2. The holographic display wasn't just a movie display. It was a picture of the unfolding battle so they could coordinate and form strategies to win. Just because they lost doesn't mean that they didn't use any strategy. I agree with the droid commando. If nothing else, it gives to the balance of the game.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #30 on:** November 17, 2008, 03:03 am »

Quote from: Viper on November 17, 2008, 02:46 am

I agree. There is always a place to use tactics. Think of Geonosis on episode 2. The holographic display wasn't just a movie display. It was a picture of the unfolding battle so they could coordinate and form strategies to win. Just because they lost doesn't mean that they didn't use any strategy. I agree with the droid commando. If nothing else, it gives to the balance of the game.

agree, i do

Mandalor Vipeer · « **Reply #31 on:** November 17, 2008, 03:12 am »

That's three for it.

Tanus · « **Reply #32 on:** November 17, 2008, 03:36 am »

I'm sorry, but I agree with E. CIS isn't exactly known for its amazingly sneaky tactics. Think about it. They used a damn BATTLESHIP to kidnap the chancellor.

Also, you need to take gameplay into consideration. I'm not going to preach here, but infiltration isn't usually a hallmark of the CIS. Give them tons of expendable infantry, a few light tanks, and they'll make do.

Vote - NO

Mandalor Vipeer · « **Reply #33 on:** November 17, 2008, 03:44 am »

How did they actually get the chancelor out of galactic city. they didn't use a massive army on the ground. They had a massive army in orbit. They sent a small group to get him.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #34 on:** November 17, 2008, 03:49 am »

Quote from: Viper on November 17, 2008, 03:44 am

How did they actually get the chancelor out of galactic city. they didn't use a massive army on the ground. They had a massive army in orbit. They sent a small group to get him.

the chancelor went with grevious willingly so they only needed a small force lol

Mandalor Vipeer · « **Reply #35 on:** November 17, 2008, 03:54 am »

Exactly. The CIS used a SMALL force to get the chancelor. the key here is SMALL. SMALL SMALL SMALL. Small forces require using tactics in order to win.

Tanus · « **Reply #36 on:** November 17, 2008, 04:07 am »

Oh for crap's sake. LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY:

CIS = Biiiiiig numbers of droids. Agree? good.

Biiiiig number of droids = no real need for intense tactics (expendable). Agree? good.

No real need for tactics = GAMEPLAY MECHANIC

GAMEPLAY = GOOD

Mandalor Vipeer · « **Reply #37 on:** November 17, 2008, 04:15 am »

Don't agree, but whatever you say. If you don't use tactics and your enemy does, you lose end of story.
Agree? Good

Tanus · « **Reply #38 on:** November 17, 2008, 04:17 am »

sorry, bit cranky. got hit in the neck with a kendo shinai. time for some advil.

my opinion stays the same bout the droid though.

Mandalor Vipeer · « **Reply #39 on:** November 17, 2008, 04:23 am »

No problem, but still the deal about getting the chancellor to the ship in the first place proves that the CIS did use things like squad & small group tactics. (Sorry but I like to pick out little details that everyon else overlooks)

"Argue and I'll kill you with my teacup"- Riddick

darth sane · « **Reply #40 on:** November 17, 2008, 04:26 am »

I am a no go on this request, because i believe that the CIS would not resort to covert commandos. They was know for handing a massive droid army and steam roll over enemies. Because of this fact i think that the battle droids should be very cheat to buy since the b1 version was cheat and the b2 should be the more expensive version.

Peace Trooper · « **Reply #41 on:** November 17, 2008, 03:37 pm »

Quote from: darth sane on November 17, 2008, 04:26 am

I am a no no go one this request, because i believe that the CIS would not resort to covert commandos. They was know for haning a massive droid army and steam roll over enemies. Because of this fact i think that the battle droids should be very cheat to buy since the b1 version was cheat and the b2 should be the more expensive version.

yes they would there is more than enough cannon sources to back me up that they did use covert operations

aceofhicks · « **Reply #42 on:** November 17, 2008, 08:15 pm »

I vote no.

Mandalor Vipeer · « **Reply #43 on:** November 17, 2008, 09:24 pm »

I've still gotta vote yes because there is not as much solid evidence against them as there is for them. Just because you saw or read about the massive armies rolling over people, or however you put it, that doesn't mean that there were no covert ops. When sieging Troy, Agamemnon had more of everything and he was still pushed back. (Troy- Republic, Greece- CIS) The only way that the Greeks got into the city was form a small team to sneak in and open the gates. Now think of this concept in Star Wars. How do you take an impenetrable fortress if the doors are locked? You unlock them. That's where commandos come in. If your huge battle droid army can't get in they'll be cut down in no time. but if a small group can get in and open the doors, the army can get in. (I think I jut repeated myself several times) anyway, do you get the point? Every army no matter how big must have some kind of spec ops to move and function.

Dr. Doozer · « **Reply #44 on:** November 17, 2008, 10:53 pm »

Quote from: Viper on November 17, 2008, 02:46 am

I agree. There is always a place to use tactics. Think of Geonosis on episode 2. The holographic display wasn't just a movie display. It was a picture of the unfolding battle so they could coordinate and form strategies to win. Just because they lost doesn't mean that they didn't use any strategy. I agree with the droid commando. If nothing else, it gives to the balance of the game.

That was used so they could PLACE THE MASSIVE NUMBERS OF DROIDS at places where the REPUBLIC WOULD BE OVERWHELMED and buy some time to flee the planet.

e^(πi)+1=0 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 17, 2008, 11:30 pm »

this topic is rejected; the staff and most of the members already agreed against it. END OF DISCUSSION

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